{"id":232,"date":"2008-03-11T11:28:07","date_gmt":"2008-03-11T11:28:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=232"},"modified":"2008-03-11T11:28:07","modified_gmt":"2008-03-11T11:28:07","slug":"deja-vu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=232","title":{"rendered":"D\u00e9j\u00e0 Vu?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Saturday morning started for me opposite the Chinese Embassy, where supporters of a free Tibet were demonstrating on the 49th anniversary of the Tibetan uprising. I haven&#8217;t photographed there all of those 49 years, but it sometimes begins to feel a little like it, and this and the ensuing march through the West End certainly felt like watching a yet another repeat. All over again!<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2008\/03\/08\/20080308-d0389.jpg\" height=\"301\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2008\/03\/mar08-01.htm\" target=\"_blank\">more 2008 pictures<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Photographically it brought to mind two people, both in their different ways important teachers, although for me only at second-hand.<\/p>\n<p><em>Alexey Brodovitch<\/em> was art director of <em>Harper&#8217;s Bazaar<\/em> from 1938 to 1958, and among the photographers he nurtured there were I<em>rving Penn, Richard Avedon<\/em> and <em>Hiro<\/em>, while his classes in New York (and New Haven) drew <em>Diane Arbus<\/em> and <em>Tony Ray Jones<\/em> and a whole generation of New York based photographers. One of the many whose work you may not know well, but has a great web site with work from 60 years of photography is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.georgezimbel.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">George S Zimbel<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Brodivitch used to insist to photographers &#8220;<em>Surprise me!<\/em>&#8221; and told them that if they looked into the viewfinder and saw something they had seen before not to take the picture.<\/p>\n<p>The other person who came to mind was <em>Garry Winogrand<\/em> (and it was Zimbel who turned Winogrand on to photography), whose work has always interested me greatly.  Again I never met him, though I&#8217;ve used film of him in teaching (and a piece in <em><a href=\"http:\/\/theonlinephotographer.typepad.com\/the_online_photographer\/2007\/08\/a-short-course-.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Online Photographer<\/a><\/em> last summer included links to a TV video on him from 1982 and the recollections of <a href=\"http:\/\/ocgarzaphotography.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>O C Garza<\/em><\/a> who studied with him at the University of Texas in the mid 70&#8217;s &#8211; both well worth looking at.)<\/p>\n<p>In the video, one of several comments by Winogrand is &#8220;<em>You don&#8217;t learn anything from repeating what you know &#8230; in effect \u0085 so I keep trying to make it uncertain<\/em>&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Saturday with <em>&#8216;Free Tibet<\/em>&#8216;, too many things seemed familiar and I had problems with making things uncertain as I struggled with what Winogrand described as &#8220;<em>the battle of form versus content<\/em>.&#8221;  But too many of my images were merely safe &#8211; and as he also said, &#8220;<em>Most everything I do doesn&#8217;t quite make it. Hopefully you&#8217;re risking failing every time you make a frame<\/em>.&#8221; Perhaps as usual I wasn&#8217;t risking enough.<\/p>\n<p>You can see more of my pictures from 2008 on <a href=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2008\/03\/mar08-01.htm\">My London Diary<\/a>, as well as some from previous years:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Tibet: 2000<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mylondondiary.co.uk\/2000\/03\/0030122s.jpg\" height=\"312\" width=\"450\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Tibet 2001<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mylondondiary.co.uk\/2001\/03\/01-301-65.jpg\" height=\"286\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<strong><br \/>\nFree Tibet 2002<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mylondondiary.co.uk\/2002\/03\/02318-63.jpg\" height=\"305\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mylondondiary.co.uk\/2002\/03\/mar09-01.htm\" target=\"_blank\">more 2002 pictures<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Tibet 2003<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.mylondondiary.co.uk\/2003\/03\/slides\/030308_n061.jpg\" height=\"300\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mylondondiary.co.uk\/2003\/03\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">more 2003 pictures<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Tibet 2005<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2005\/03\/12\/050312_n246.jpg\" height=\"298\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2005\/03\/mar12-01.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> more 2005 pictures <\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Tibet 2006<br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2006\/03\/11\/060311_d0488.jpg\" height=\"301\" width=\"450\" \/><\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2006\/03\/mar11-01.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> more 2006 pictures<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Free Tibet 2007<\/strong><br \/>\n<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2007\/03\/10\/070310-0266.jpg\" height=\"301\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/mylondondiary.co.uk\/2007\/03\/mar10-01.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> more 2007 pictures<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Looks like I had a year off in 2004!<\/p>\n<p><em>Peter Marshall\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Saturday morning started for me opposite the Chinese Embassy, where supporters of a free Tibet were demonstrating on the 49th anniversary of the Tibetan uprising. I haven&#8217;t photographed there all of those 49 years, but it sometimes begins to feel a little like it, and this and the ensuing march through the West End certainly &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=232\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">D\u00e9j\u00e0 Vu?<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,8,6,2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-232","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-my-own-work","category-photo-history","category-photo-issues","category-photographers"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/232","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=232"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/232\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=232"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=232"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=232"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}