{"id":1421,"date":"2011-10-04T10:41:39","date_gmt":"2011-10-04T10:41:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=1421"},"modified":"2011-10-04T10:41:39","modified_gmt":"2011-10-04T10:41:39","slug":"speculation-on-photographs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=1421","title":{"rendered":"Speculation on Photographs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Alec Soth starts an interesting discussion with his<a href=\"http:\/\/littlebrownmushroom.wordpress.com\/2011\/10\/02\/the-art-of-speculation\/\" rel=\"bookmark\"> The art of\u00a0speculation<\/a> on his Little Brown Mushroom blog, where he begins by quoting a series of Tweets by <a href=\"http:\/\/errolmorris.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Erroll Morris<\/a> which attempt to give a simple account of the principles of his new book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/09\/04\/books\/review\/believing-is-seeing-by-errol-morris-book-review.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Believing Is Seeing.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Perhaps the most contentious of them is the first:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>1. All photographs are posed<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>which on an obvious level is obviously not so.\u00a0 Morris makes it true by a redefinition of the word &#8216;posed&#8217;, as becomes clear in his discussion of the two <em>Roger Fenton<\/em> pictures of &#8216;The Valley of the Shadow of Death&#8217;, one with cannonballs on the path and the other without, where he writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Couldn\u0092t you argue that every photograph is posed because every photograph <em>excludes<\/em> something?  In every photograph <em>something<\/em>  is absent.  Someone has made a decision about what time-slice to expose  on the emulsion, what space-slice to expose on the emulsion.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>You can only argue this if you are prepared to alter the accepted definition of &#8216;posed&#8217; to mean something intrinsically different to its normally understood and accepted meaning, of something that has been set up or re-ordered or arranged within the view of the camera.\u00a0 Framing isn&#8217;t posing, nor is the selection of the moment, or indeed the other decisions we all make that affect the picture we produce. His is not just a silly and circular argument, but one that erodes our critical vocabulary.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">The quotation comes from the <a href=\"http:\/\/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/10\/23\/which-came-first-part-three-can-george-lionel-and-marmaduke-help-us-order-the-fenton-photographs\/\" target=\"_blank\">third and final<\/a> of his three articles on these two pictures, where his quest to establish without doubt the order in which the two pictures were made takes him both to numerous experts in photo history and interpretation of images as well as on a field trip to the Crimea.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/buildingsoflondon.co.uk\/Library\/fenton-2.jpg\" title=\"Public domain: US Library of Congress cph 3g09217\" alt=\"Public domain: US Library of Congress cph 3g09217\" height=\"343\" width=\"450\" \/><br \/>\n<small>You can download a 50 Mb file from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.loc.gov\/pictures\/resource\/cph.3g09217\/\" target=\"_blank\">Library of Congress<\/a> and print your own Fenton<\/small><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">You can read his full three part series on line starting at <a href=\"http:\/\/opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com\/2007\/09\/25\/which-came-first-the-chicken-or-the-egg-part-one\/\" target=\"_blank\">Which Came First, the Chicken or the Egg? (Part One)<\/a> which has links to parts 2 and 3.\u00a0 It was certainly a painstaking exercise, but after I&#8217;d spent a couple of minutes reading a little of part 1, all I wanted to know was if he had established the answer &#8211; and whether it agreed with my own immediate photographic intuition on first viewing the image that the cannonballs on the path were perhaps rather too nicely scattered. I posted some thoughts on the matter here in <a href=\"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/\/?p=154\" rel=\"bookmark\" title=\"Permanent Link: Cannon Balls to Fenton\">Cannon Balls to Fenton<\/a> when these articles by Morris were first published in 2007.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Morris&#8217;s argument &#8211; as I say above &#8211;\u00a0 seems to me to be saying that if we redefine &#8216;posed&#8217; to mean made using the kind of selection and abstraction that is always\u00a0 involved in making a photograph (even those ones that, to quote<a href=\"http:\/\/www.leonneal.com\/blog\/2011\/10\/03\/the-complete-alternative-london-knowledge\/\" target=\"_blank\"> Leon Neal,<\/a> you only got &#8220;<em>you only got &#8230; by accidentally dropping your camera as your ate your Big Mac, firing a frame of the subject &#8230; as they passed behind you<\/em>&#8220;)\u00a0 then all photographs are posed.\u00a0 I object to this kind of abuse of language.\u00a0 Let&#8217;s find the right word and use it rather than cheapen another that has a normally accepted different and useful meaning.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">\u00a0Soth discusses Morris&#8217;s second point:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\"><em>2. The intentions of the photographer are not recorded in a  photographic image. (You can imagine what they are, but it\u0092s pure  speculation).<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p align=\"left\">It seems a rather partial truth.\u00a0 Soth makes the point that our speculations about the photographers intention are essential to our experience of the work, andI think it we can also say that the photographers intentions are also integral to the production of the work. Soth discusses a well-known image by Robert Frank, of the view from a hotel window in Butte Montana. Although Frank&#8217;s intentions may not be recorded in it, had they been different then he would have made a different picture. Or no picture at all.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Frank&#8217;s intentions of course made him take not just this picture, but a large number of others, and to edit and sequence them in a particular way.\u00a0 And though his intentions may not be recorded precisely in the book or any individual image, both rule out many possible interpretations. What we imagine when we read the work is certainly not &#8220;pure speculation&#8221; but an impure speculation that runs with rather than against the evidence provided.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Of course each of us sees a different picture when we look at this (or any other image) constructing it from our own interpretation of what we see and what we know about it, our previous experiences and the environment in which we come across it.\u00a0 We see a different picture every time we look at it, but we are likely to have both in our individual and our shared experience certain perceptions about it which are likely to be in common.\u00a0 Photography isn&#8217;t just a medium, it is also a community.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=1422\"><em>Continued in Speculation on Photographs <\/em><\/a>(part 2)<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alec Soth starts an interesting discussion with his The art of\u00a0speculation on his Little Brown Mushroom blog, where he begins by quoting a series of Tweets by Erroll Morris which attempt to give a simple account of the principles of his new book Believing Is Seeing. Perhaps the most contentious of them is the first: &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/?p=1421\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Speculation on Photographs<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,6,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1421","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-photo-history","category-photo-issues","category-reviews-etc"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1421","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1421"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1421\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1421"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1421"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/re-photo.co.uk\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1421"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}